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‘Ajax will cost more than it’s worth’

NEWS/ AJAX — The proposed Ajax open pit copper mine will cost more than it’s worth, two opponents assert.

ajax gateRetired Thompson Rivers University professor Ken Blawatt and retired physician Dennis Karpiak released an evaluation today on the economic, health and environmental costs of the mine.

The 35-page report cites social, health and welfare issues as ongoing negative effects of the mine. “To this can be added the environmental losses that will affect the region for centuries to come. On balance the mining operation will cost more than it is worth.”

While Karpiak and Blawatt say the mine would provide a total estimated economic benefit of $2.195 billion, site cleanup alone could cost $2.6 billion, and the total economic loss could be $6.2 billion.

“The net economic benefits are out-weighed by a heavy total cost to all residents even as it generates billions of dollars in profit for the promoters and owners of the mine,” they say.

Their report expresses fear of the mine’s impact on tourism, health, the water table, recreational lakes, the grasslands and fish stocks.

It says the Tournament Capital program could be adversely affected.

One of the main reasons mines are located away from urban areas is the adverse effects of mining activities, Karpiak and Blawatt say.

Their report uses studies of the impacts on other mines to back up its arguments.

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13 Comments on ‘Ajax will cost more than it’s worth’

  1. Unknown's avatar dennis karpiak // September 29, 2014 at 9:17 AM // Reply

    As I said at the press conference if your child woke up in the middle of the night gasping for air and wheezing after participating in a soccer tournament promoted by The City of Kamloops as a Tournament Capital City after being informed about the adverse air quality[which has been done repeatedly]then the parents should sue the City for not providing notice of being in a toxic air zone.Ajax would multiply the risk.Every respirologist would provide testimony without reservation.We need a clear message to the City Council fence sitters and the Liberals that this is our City our lifestyle our lakes rivers and grasslands and our air and Democracy dictates that our voices take a primary role in mining decisions rather than the rubber stamp process in place.The Governor of Alaska Lisa Murkowski supports this position and has made the State’s position known in respect to the murkiness of the existing Environmental Assessment Office process which in the history of the Office has never refused an application.

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  2. Thank you to Ken Blawatt and Dennis Karpiak for all the research they’ve done on this report. I sincerely hope this information will help to stop the development of this proposed mine in our city. This mine would literally be right on our doorstep TOO CLOSE TO KAMLOOPS!

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  3. I can hardly think of two less credible people to release a report on almost anything. The fact that one was a retired economics professor and the other a retired Physician means nothing. What is kind of interesting to me is that they found each other.

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    • I think that the benefit of this publicity is that people may broaden their view and recognize that there will be economic/health and environmental costs as well as potential benefits with a project like the proposed Ajax mine.

      It is widely recognized that part of the reason mining is profitable is because of the “externalities” which are borne by the environment and the communities in which the companies operate. Most of us would never think this way and don’t understand these concepts well.

      I think the debate that is generated by this document will be valuable for the citizens of Kamloops, however personally attacking the authors is probably not valuable.

      Why not read the report and criticize/debate the findings – not the people who wrote the report?

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    • You running scared? You mean an ex-cop and an ex-reported have any meaning?

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    • Repugnant is the word that comes to mind as I re-read your comment, Irene.
      A university professor and a health specialist have nothing to contribute?
      Their educated opinions means nothing, especially in the field of their own expertise?
      Is an expert opinion only so if it corroborates your awkward understandings?
      Our society is indeed in serious danger if anyone takes your comment seriously.

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    • Unknown's avatar Sean McGuinness // September 28, 2014 at 9:06 AM // Reply

      Irene,
      Have you actually read their report? I think that if you read it, then you will see that even if one disagrees with half of their numbers, the costs of the mine still easily outweigh the economic benefits.

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    • Unknown's avatar Cynthia Ross Friedman // September 28, 2014 at 10:46 AM // Reply

      I am quite interested in your comment here, Irene. These two individuals are highly credentialed and experienced, and also intelligent enough to have had their report critically peer-reviewed by many other scientists and researchers before its public release. They certainly did not pull the numbers out of the air, and a lot of very smart people have scrutinized the values very closely. The report is actually quite conservative in its predictions.

      What probably upsets me the most about your comments is that you are openly scoffing at opponents’ genuine concern for Kamloops, thinking that we want to deny opportunity for Kamloopsians and care only about our lot in life. That could not be further from the truth — we have studied and read and learned and pondered over and over and are genuinely horrified at what the proposal could mean for your health and well-being. Indeed, my husband and I could simply move away the minute he retires (soon), as the kids are out of the house now, but I will never shy away from a just fight. Never. This proposed mine would very likely be one of the worst things to happen to Kamloops, ever, should it go forward. I don’t say that lightly — I say that after much consideration and deliberation, and I cannot in good conscience say anything different.

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    • Wouldn’t you want an economist to discuss the economics of a mine? An Ajax rep can’t do that. Neither can a mining engineer. And who better to talk health than a doctor? Are you going to take health advice from KGHM?

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  4. Finally, we can take down that sign I saw that said, “More Power To The Rock Company That Will Blast The S_ _ _ Out Of The Kamloops Surroundings.”

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  5. Unknown's avatar Sean McGuinness // September 27, 2014 at 10:15 AM // Reply

    Good to see people are looking at the social/health/economic ramifications of the mine.
    I’m wondering what the legal aspects are. Is there a viable legal argument to made against this mine? There are homes and a school in very close proximity. If the project is approved, what legal recourse do these people have?

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  6. I am eager to read the responses from the Ajax promoters. Will this lead to more photo-ops and hugs of convenience?
    To Mr. Karpiak and Mr. Blawatt a big thank you for putting your expertise and time to very good use.

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