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TAUBE – Taking aim at those pointless student-led anti-gun marches

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March as you see fit but gun control isn’t the answer. Democracy will sort out reasonable gun rights changes

For those of us fortunate enough to live in a democracy, there are several important principles we should always cherish and defend. This includes free speech and freedom of assembly.

These two principles were prominently on display during the March for Our Lives, an America-wide student-led demonstration against gun violence held in Washington, D.C., on Saturday.

Roughly two million American students, parents and families marched in solidarity against the steady rise in school shootings, and in support of gun control, universal background checks, closing the gun show loophole and re-establishing an assault weapon ban. They were joined by people in other countries (like Canada) at smaller rallies.

This was all perfectly fine. If you wanted to make your voice heard that day, you had the democratic right to assemble and march. Just keep in mind that most rational-thinking Americans and non-Americans don’t support aspects of your cause.

I support gun rights, not gun control. I’m not a gun owner and have only fired one on a handful of occasions. To me, gun ownership has always been a matter of personal choice – and fits perfectly under the purview of a strong defence of property rights in countries that support freedom, liberty and democracy.

If a law-abiding citizen wishes to own a gun, or several guns, for livelihood, sport or any other legitimate reason, they should have this inherent right in a free society. Any individual or organization wishing to infringe on this right for personal or political gain is both irresponsible and anti-democratic.

Here’s where the needle of public opinion has moved in this debate.

The U.S. Constitution’s Second Amendment reads, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” America’s founders were right to include this important principle, but they lived at a time where safety, security and wars were mostly fought with muskets and gunpowder. The times we live in are different, and modern weapons are far more complex and deadly.

This has led to some preliminary changes in American attitudes and potential changes in government legislation, related to firearms.

The Florida legislature recently introduced waiting periods and background checks for people who want to by a gun, and raised the minimum age for purchasing rifles to 21. Bump fire stocks, which can turn a semi-automatic firearm into a fully automatic firearm, have actually raised the ire of the National Rifle Association and led President Donald Trump to propose a regulatory ban on these devices. Republicans have even started to join Democrats in calling for more extensive background checks for purchasing firearms and increased mental health funding to help troubled individuals.

Meanwhile, the litany of school shootings over the years – including Columbine, Sandy Hook and Marjory Stoneman Douglas, to name a few – have rattled many Americans. They obviously want children to be safe and secure in a school environment (only a lunatic wouldn’t desire this), but they don’t know what the next steps are, either.

Some people have correctly suggested better vetting procedures when it comes to school resource officers. Extensive training for police in these types of situations is the right thing to do, too.

There’s also been a controversial proposal for U.S. states to start discussing arming teachers. Based on the teachers most of us had, this could end up on the cutting room floor.

The big takeaway? These reasonable changes and discussions about gun rights occurred before one step had been taken in the March for Our Lives.

If the student radicals behind this march believe their warped sense of reality about guns won the day, they’re sadly mistaken. Democracy, as messy as it is, often finds a way to succeed.

Troy Media columnist and political commentator Michael Taube was a speechwriter for former prime minister Stephen Harper.

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18 Comments on TAUBE – Taking aim at those pointless student-led anti-gun marches

  1. After reading all these very emotional responses to this post I get all of the concepts you all speak of as I am not a gun owner but I believe it is society as a whole that has built guns to be the monster they are yet they are just a prop used in the process if a person is going to harm someone they will use what ever they must to get the job done. Please see my posts Gun, Guns, and More Guns and my other posts you maybe interested in are posts: Another Mass Shooting, What Makes A Bully, What Is Wrong With Our Society and The Realities Of Ignorance. Thank you

    • I’m not just sure what side of the moon you come from but if you think that a knife or bat is as lethal as a bump stock AR15 YOU”R NUTS !!!!! Nobody with a knife could have murdered 17 students and the cowardly cop might have summoned the guts to enter the school and stop him.All it takes is a good person with a baseball bat to stop a bad person with a baseball bat.Not so with the AR 15.

      • Obviously an AR15 does more damage then a knife or bat. But the point is is not that Im nuts thanks for your comment though always happy to here another persons view. The point is 1 person or 100 mo one ahould die but if someone wants to take out a bunch of people they will do it which every way they have too. Lso I welcomed your opinion with open arms maybe if u were to respond with less of an attack people would view your view points with kindness and understandinf like I did. Their is no reason to be rude or judgey I was happy to here your opinion. Maybe you can ponder how name calling and ridiculing people people is the exact reason kids and people do horrible acts like this and you can do your best in the future to be a little kinder. Once again I thank you for your opiniom and agree A R15’s do more damage but its still the people who pull the trigger that need to be fixed.

      • Tony Brumell // April 4, 2018 at 12:51 PM //

        Well !! I thank you for your opinion right back .I had a good laugh.

      • Always happy to bring someone joy have a great night.

      • Also Tony Id like to point out the other part that no one is remembering. The kid that did the shooting of that school was already on a watch list. He was already seen as the type of person that would do something like what he did. So even though the police are being shamed for not running in with out a visual of who the shooter was which by the way does not make them cowardly it makes them following their instructions from their bosses. All of the above could have been prevented if more steps were taken to prevent such acts in the first place. That boy needed structure and support. If he has either of the things someone would have maybe been able to prevent his actions by restraint or etc. But instead they pushed him to the side and waited for him to do what he did. There is a much bigger picture here what happen to those children is sick and sad beyond means. Any time a life is taken it is a tragedy. The only way to stop scenes like this is to be vigilant and reach out when we see something that stands out . instead society as a whole survives and lives on ignorance and chooses much smaller battles then the ones that could actually make a difference. I do not believe school should have guns in them the should have metal detectors and etc to prevent such acts. Every morning I wish my siblings safety and love when they go to school so make no mistake it terrifies me the possibilities of what people can do. But there is an underlining picture that still no one faces and sadly I think thats the one that could make the difference.

  2. Mel—please be a bit more selective in whose articles you choose to include on the Armchair Mayor forum—there’s no need, other than to raise the ire of folks who follow this forum, to post this kind of drivel on a respectable community forum.

    • Mel Rothenburger // March 29, 2018 at 6:51 AM // Reply

      Thanks, I sometimes purposely choose columns that express opinions different from my own, in order to provide balanced debate.

      • It should be noted that there was nothing balanced about Taubs’ diatribe and it didn’t balance any ” other side” comments.I guess it could be argued that it helped convince me that he’s an idiot

      • Mel Rothenburger // March 29, 2018 at 10:45 AM //

        Of course his column wasn’t balanced – he was offering his opinion on an issue, just as we all do. However, you’ll note that in an editorial this week, I praised the students involved in the marches. Different opinion. That’s the kind of balanced debate I’m talking about. Rather than labeling everyone we disagree with as idiots, can we debate issues instead?

  3. As soon as I read Taube was a former speechwriter for Harper it all made sense. Go away Mr. Taube

  4. Bob Boonstra // March 28, 2018 at 2:00 PM // Reply

    Click bait indeed. Gun ownership is a privilege in Canada, not a right. Regulation of guns and who owns them is called gun control. It works and takes no freedoms away from anyone, while making jurisdictions much safer. I didn’t read far before going to reader comments to see how others have reacted. Apparently, much as I have.

  5. David Johnson // March 28, 2018 at 1:11 PM // Reply

    Taube is in the business of being clickbait for personal gain.
    This was designed only to elicit anger and raise his media stature, so more outlets would carry his rhetoric. Not buying it.

    Posting with pride that he was a speech writer for Harper suggests his approach to public discourse is not unlike the political conservative adoration for bleating everything negative it can about our present Liberal government, regardless of the existence of actual fact. One would think he may be planning a run in the next election as a conservative and is carefully curating his public profile to that end.

    Gun ownership in Canada (unlike the U.S.) is NOT a right, but a privilege, and he knows that, yet that detail matters not. He wrote that sentence, and expanded it to the rest of the column … as if it was fact. In other words, he lied … then backed it up using freedom of belief and expression as the justification.

    sad

  6. You are an ignorant man Mr Taube with zero credibility.Only someone as blind as you could devalue the lives of these very special children.Democracy should speak for the betterment of society not the values of miopic individuals such as the madman that runs the NRA.(and you apparently }These and all other students and individuals have the right to walk their own streets,go to their own schools go to their own theaters without some madman {woman ???} going out and killing them.
    The second amendment was designed for a different society and a different time .REPEAL the
    entire second amendment so that shows value for today’s citizens and children.

    I believe a complete boycot of school , until the laws are repealled is in order.

  7. I don’t get the point you’re trying to make. You believe that we should have unfettered access to guns? The mentally ill? Angsty teens going through a rough patch? I am a gun owner in Canada. I’ve gone through the required training and background checks. My ex-wife was notified that I had applied for a firearms license and asked if she had any concerns. Those are all reasonable steps. After that, I can buy any legal rifle or handgun at any time. What’s wrong with some sanity checks before letting people buy deadly weapons? That is what American’s are marching for and it is completely logical. How many kids need to die before some reasonable measures are put in place around gun ownership?

    You state “If a law-abiding citizen wishes to own a gun, or several guns, for livelihood, sport or any other legitimate reason, they should have this inherent right in a free society. Any individual or organization wishing to infringe on this right for personal or political gain is both irresponsible and anti-democratic.”. With laws such as we have in Canada, how are rights infringed? Anyone can apply for a PAL, they just need to prove they aren’t unstable and that they have been trained. Seems like the best of both worlds to me.

    Your article is nonsensical and doesn’t seem to have a point. I’m not sure why I responded.

  8. I take issue with a lot in this column, in particular the statement “If a law-abiding citizen wishes to own a gun, or several guns, for livelihood, sport or any other legitimate reason, they should have this inherent right in a free society”. Question: Do we live in a “free society” when we have to post armed guards at our schools, possibly arm teachers, and live in fear of loosing our kids to gun violence??

  9. I don’t think “student radicals” think they “won the day”. I do think that the students have raised awareness about the issue nationally and beyond, they have effected some change in that some retailers have changed their practices with regard to gun sales, they may have influenced and engaged more youth and people generally to vote for candidates who are supportive of gun law changes…which in turn will influence politicians. The day has not been won but the conversation has been started, and that is important.

  10. Seriously?

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