FORSETH – BC Liberals will win next election, Greens will be wiped out

Premier Christy Clark makes her closing remarks before non-confidence vote Thursday. (Image: BC Hansard)

THURSDAY IN the legislature, a long drawn-out limp to the finish line played out for the BC Liberal Party.  It began this afternoon with parries between Weaver and Clark … beginning with these words:

Weaver: Yesterday the Premier held a press conference in the rose garden, where she stated: “This is isn’t a working Legislature, and I haven’t seen any evidence that it could work.” She further stated: “There’s no effort on the part of either opposition party to work together.”

Hon. Speaker, she implied that because her government, the government under her leadership, has been unable to advance its agenda — frankly, our agenda — the only option is to subject British Columbia to another election. For weeks, the Premier has delayed a confidence vote that she knows she will lose. Instead, her government has chosen to play political games that are designed to undermine cooperation and stability.

Let me be clear. Stability does not depend on this Premier holding on to power. The Greens stand ready to work with all parties…once the government has demonstrated that it has the confidence of the House

My question to the Premier is this: can the Premier clarify why she made this statement when the majority of members in this House stand ready and willing to work together?

Hon. C. Clark: You know, that member campaigned hard in the election on saying that he was going to be different. Instead, what he’s done is decide to just be more of the same.

That member campaigned in the election saying that he was going to be an independent voice in this Legislature, and instead what he’s done is decide to sit there and take orders from one of the major parties rather than making up his own mind.

That member said that he supported campaign finance reform and then refused to even look at it when it was proposed in this Legislature. And now that member stands up and says he’s willing to work with anybody. Nobody believes you anymore.

I said the same thing a few days ago.  In fact I went so far as to say, on a post to Andrew Weaver’s story; “Explaining my votes in the B.C. legislature today”:

Principles my buttoo. Andrew Weaver was demanding campaign finance reform, until today. Now he’s voted against it. What HE HAS DONE is just showed his true colors… and LACK OF PRINCIPLES. Have fun getting trounced next election Andrew!

Later in the afternoon, in the B.C. Legislature, Christy Clark stated:
Now, let me speak to the question that everyone in this chamber has raised in the last few days, because I’ve heard a lot of people say we’ve changed. But I know leaders don’t lead by refusing to adapt. Leaders do not lead by refusing to hear and refusing to listen.”

Let me state … Clark was full of as much crap as Weaver was.  Neither really care about anything except in Weaver’s case getting power … and in Clark’s case trying to maintain power.  For Andrew Weaver he unfortunately has not yet come to the realization that come next election the Greens will be wiped out.  And Christy Clark obviously is getting VERY bad advice.  Who in their right mind thought that stealing every election platform idea from the Greens and NDP would do anything except make every British Columbian, no matter what their political leanings, laugh at her pathetic eleventh hour conversion.

Minutes later the Speaker of the House, Steve Thomson, spoke these words that ended 16 years of government by the BC Liberal Party:

Seeing no further speakers, the question is the amendment to the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne moved by the Leader of the Official Opposition, seconded by the member for Cowichan Valley, which reads that:

[Be it resolved that the motion “We, Her Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia in Session assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious Speech which Your Honour has addressed to us at the opening of the present Session,” be amended by adding the following:

“but Her Honour’s present government does not have the confidence of this House.”]

“Be it resolved that the motion ‘We, Her Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of British Columbia in Session assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious Speech which Your Honour has addressed to us at the opening of the present Session,’ be amended by adding the following: ‘but Her Honour’s present government does not have the confidence of this House’.”

Amendment approved.

The B.C. Legislature adjourned at 5:26 p.m., following which Christy Clark went and spoke with Lieutenant Governor Judith Guichon, and just before 7:30 p.m. came and out said that “retired to make her decision.”

At 8:15 p.m. John Horgan was invited to form government.

That government, however, will fail as well because the house will be in a virtual tie.  43 for the GreeNDP … 43 for the BC Liberals … and the Speaker.

NO British Columbian — at least the 60 per cent that didn’t vote for the Greens and NDP — will agree with the Speaker of the House voting every time with the government to approve its legislation.

That has never happened before, and most will consider it to be a perversion of democracy.

That government will fall, and then we’ll be right back into a brand new General Election.

I’ll make my prediction right here an now:

BC Liberals … 49

NDP … 38

BC Green Party … ZERO

In Kamloops … I’m Alan Forseth.

Alan Forseth is a Kamloops resident and former member of the Reform Party of Canada, the B.C. Reform Party and the B.C. Conservative Party. His blog is My Thoughts on Politics and More.

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8 Comments on FORSETH – BC Liberals will win next election, Greens will be wiped out

  1. Shame on you Alan—I thought you were a loyal Conservative, you have completely forgotten about the resurgence of your party in the next election. If there is anything that Christy Clark has done with her un-Liberal throne speech it will be to revitalize the BC Conservative Party. More than half the BC Liberal Party are hard core Conservatives and they have just been left high and dry by Christy’s throne speech. Your numbers are way off—lets look at this again in four years.

    • Alan Forseth // July 1, 2017 at 8:58 AM // Reply

      YES … am a loyal conservative

      Having worked in ALL aspects of an election campaign (from signing making and leaflet drops, up to and including being a candidate in the ’96 orivincial election) I am VERY aware of what it takes to win a campaign. If there is an election in anything less than 10 to 12 months they WILL NOT be ready. In a year to 18 months, with a strong principled and believable leader, they will.

      If these things are met, and they can welcome back small ‘c’ conservatives that desire a party then can support, it will still take 2, maybe 3, election cycles to form government.

      I’m ready to roll up my sleeves, and go to work to make it happen. Now I, and others, wait for the BC Conservatives to see if they’re ready to become a serious contender.

  2. ajaxtoobigtooclose // June 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM // Reply

    Wait until Clark does another 180 degree switch and starts voting against the elements in her throne speech that the NDP/Greens present for legislation. Clark has been shown to be a cynical hypocritical power hungry person who has no normal concept of integrity and truthfulness. Her arrogant efforts to boost wealthy corporations and friends has been obscene. She will be sent to the waste heap of history where she belongs.

  3. tony brumell // June 30, 2017 at 11:44 AM // Reply

    I absolutley disagree with you Allen.I think that Clarks hypocracy will resonate with the electorate..I think she has guaranteed a win for Mr Horgan.In the next election (whenever) Mr Horgan and Mr Weaver will espouse certain values within their platform,Such as eliminating corporate and union contributions and minimum wages and health care etc etc and not even Mz Clark will be able to say “I don’t agree”.The electorate “that is those who actually vote” is not that stupid.They know when they are being snowed and treated as ignorant swine and they will rebel against Clark.
    I believe that The NDP/Green agenda must start with corporate donations (To stop Clark from buying the next election) and proceed with voter reform to prevent ( in all probability) any future majority government (dictatorship)Thus ensuring a peoples gov’t for the future
    Because Mz Clark has willfully presided over a useless ,ineffectual gov’t since the election I believe her party should be sent a bill for the wasted costs of the Ledge for that whole time.How much of the peoples money did she waste in her desperate clinging to power?

    • Alan Forseth // July 1, 2017 at 9:04 AM // Reply

      Hey Tony … I love how politics can bring out such strong and passionate beliefs. It IS great for our democracy and keeps it strong!

      Sadly, too many people will believe what they want to hear, and will ignore all evidence to the contrary. That’s why I think they would win a strong mandate, if our new John Horgan led NDP government falls in the next few month.

      We’re in interesting times.

  4. Wow ! what a sore loser. why should the Greens support the Liberals , and their blatant theft of the NDPG campaign planks ? The throne speech was liberally sprinkled with the words ” when we can ” after every stolen promise. Clark had no intentions of following through on anything in the throne speech, it was just more lies. It is about time we were rid of Clark, and her corrupt Liberal party. There will not be another election any time soon, and when there is, your numbers will not be even close to right. My prediction is for a clear NDP majority next time.

  5. Weaver is full of crap?
    A perversion of democracy?
    Take a Valium Allan and focus on your riding. Your political dogma is killing your ability to reason.

    • Alan Forseth // July 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM // Reply

      ‘Full of crap’ was probably a little strong. A ‘perversion of democracy’, NO. The Speaker will have to vote with the government every time to get Legislation / Bills to pass. That IS NOT the roll the speaker is to have — it is to be a neutral moderator, and keeper of rules and tradition. ‘Perversion of democracy’ is indeed, in my opinion, an accurate assesment of the situation.

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