LETTER – Don’t keep us in the dark about PAC, other Build Kamloops costs

Artist’s conception of PAC lobby. (Image: StationOne Architects)
I certainly agree with Mr. Gordon that the PAC and its funding strategy is an important and controversial matter.
I also think it would be incumbent on the story tellers to get the details correct and refrain from propaganda.
I’ve had many people say how they think a 1% tax increase or $25 a year is not a lot to pay for these wonderful new amenities. This may leave the impression or perception City representatives and supporters want the general public to believe, but this proposal requires a calculator to understand the full financial consequences.
It is actually a cumulative five-year increase of 1% property taxes, every year up until 2029 and then $125/year until the projected pay out in 2059 or until this debt is fully repaid.
I feel it is disingenuous to market this proposal, or constantly refer in public announcements, that the cost to taxpayers is ONLY $25/yr. It’s $25 the first year, $50 the next, $75 the year after that, to a total of $125/year by year five.
And this is just for the proposed PAC and arena complex. The pools and senior’s centres, etc. would presumably be subject to an additional tax increase. It also doesn’t cover regular annual or semi-annual tax hikes.
What about ongoing operational costs like maintenance, security and additional support staff? Also, will the City need to build more downtown parking capacity? The proposed location for the PAC currently provides 180 downtown spaces. The PAC would only provide 125.
Does the 5% total levy include every property class or just homeowners (Class 1). Does business contribute (Class 6) or light industrial (Class 5), major industry (Class 4), etc. or do they all get a pass on the costs of building these community amenities that will ‘benefit everyone’?
I question why there was no vote or at least a discussion on the suggestion to include regional (TNRD) participation, similar to what Nanaimo did, to help assist with shared amenities financing, or a TteS funding agreement to cover Sun Rivers residents who use city amenities.
City council holds a weighted vote on corporate and stakeholder decisions made at the TNRD board level. Why wasn’t a reasonable option for some sort of financial support pursued by our City representatives? Did I miss finding a record of any proposal being discussed or presented by Coun. O’Reilly or another of the City’s TNRD directors?
I am curious as to the projected costs of the other amenities proposed by the Build Kamloops team. I don’t like being kept in the dark when it comes to future expenses. I would like this council to give taxpayers a rough projection as to the ticket price to complete ‘phase 2’ of future Build Kamloops projects.
Also, there is no end-date for this 5% tax grab. Once the loan is paid off in 2059 will taxpayers get a 5% refund on their tax bills or will the city just ‘absorb’ the more than $8mil per year dedicated to pay for these two new amenities? I have seen no after-completion refunds proposed for other debts that we property owners have been paying off over the past couple of decades.
I think we need to sort out all the facts and the City needs to provide more clarity regarding the actual costs and funding structure of the proposed PAC and rink multiplex.
DENIS WALSH
Sure, at some point all the costs, details, options, etc. will put on the table. But let’s wait until we know all the facts before we started proclaiming the sky is falling. We have a group that is working hard to make Kamloops the envy of the province, how about a little encouragement from time-to-time.
Oscar Wilde once said that “A fool is someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing”.
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Besides the financial murkiness the other completely missing discussion is about the environmental impact and contribution to climate change those large civic projects will have. Modern cities all over the world invest in alternative transportation be it public transit or active transportation networks. In automotive-dependent Kamloops little of that is being done. A shrewd proposal should have included in high priority a carbon offset/environmental impact mitigation plan. While I would be happy to support a PAC I will not support the “Build Kamloops” initiative.
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It’s not anti PAC – it’s anti DEBT
We are taxed to our limits…how much more are we expected to give?!
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I don’t call Mr. Walsh’s letter anti PAC, I would call it a call to our local politicians to please give us ALL the facts, not just the hand picked few they have been feeding us. It is also a call to the taxpayers to pay attention to what they re not being told. I want to know where my hard earned money is going, who will oversee cost overruns, because with this city there are always overruns, and how the concerns of the taxpayers are going to be answered.
Things like how much is it going to cost us to attend performances, where are we all supposed to park, how are they going to protect all that lovely glass that is going to get shattered by random street folks, how much are the monthly maintenance costs going to be, what are projected profits as compared to losses, little things like that. Are we building a facility that will cover its costs or are the extras going to be added onto our tax bill each year?
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And here we go the anti Pac folk are starting their campaign already..
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Asking for clarity regarding costs to the taxpayer is not “anti-PAC”–it’s pro-transparency. How do you know whether Denis supports the PAC or not?
As for “starting their campaign already”: why don’t you have the same complaint regarding pro-PAC people, who started their campaign over a month ago?
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Renee, THKS for stepping forward and pointing out the obvious. The anti everything our hardworking Council does will never be recognized by some as worthwhile.
it’s encouraging to see we have a group that are trying to move the community forward rather than always looking in the rear view mirror.
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Thanks, Bronwen, for your wisdom. Truly, there are some deep concerns about debt load being transferred to the personal lives of taxpaying citizens. We should be aware that some of the folks who are pushing hardest for increasing the debt load are those who are making $100K-$300K per year and have a pension plan.
It’s encouraging to see we have a group (of people) WHO are looking at the big picture. You are one of them in that group, Bronwen.
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Aw, c’mon Bob. I support the PAC etc but what’s wrong with asking the city to be clear about the costs and other facts?
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