ROTHENBURGER – Why I believe in the PAC in spite of ‘alternative approval’

Close to 1,000 people turned out Monday evening for the Celebration of the Arts event supporting the PAC, despite some rain. (Image: Mel Rothenburger)
MANY REASONS have been given in the past to oppose plans for a new performing arts centre in Kamloops but this year there’s a new one — the process. People don’t like the “alternative approval process” by which it will be decided. They think it’s undemocratic, that it makes it too easy to say yes and too hard to say no.
I’ve always disagreed with using an AAP to get borrowing approval from electors for this project but I’m a strong believer, and have been for many years, in the need for a new performing arts centre, or PAC (Officially, Centre for the Arts). So, it creates some internal tension.
The alternative approval process (also called a counter petition) simply isn’t right for this important project. It’s the one chosen by City council in hopes it will avoid a referendum defeat, and its proponents keep saying it’s been used in a lot of other projects.
And it has, but while AAP is a good option for essential infrastructure projects, the Kamloops Centre for the Arts/ PAC is a wanna have. A good wanna have but not a must like clean water and a working sewage system. I’ll give you a comparative example to illustrate.
Back at the turn of the century the City was ordered by the medical health officer to fix our water quality issue. There was no choice in the matter. So the council of the day, on which I served, came up with a plan for a water treatment plant using state-of-the-art membrane filtration technology that would clean up the water supply.
Problem was we needed to borrow to pay for it, even after senior government grants. We asked the provincial government to waive the usual requirements for assent but were refused, so we went the AAP route. At that time the threshold was five per cent, that is, only five per cent of the electorate would have to petition against it to defeat the project (it was changed to 10 per cent shortly afterwards).
Fortunately, the AAP succeeded in favour of the new water plant. But imagine if it had gone to a traditional referendum and failed. What a fine pickle that would have been.
Let’s pause here to explain the AAP process. Instead of a referendum where voters go to the polls as they do in an election and vote yes or no, the AAP assumes electors vote yes unless they fill out a form and return it saying no.
Council approved the deadlines for the AAP today (July 30, 2024). The process starts immediately and closes Sept. 13. Elector response forms will be available at City Hall during business hours between 8 a.m and 4 p.m. Monday to Friday except stats. Digital copies will be available online, or can be requested by email.
Here’s the important number: with 87,131 eligible electors, defeating the project would require 8,713 of them to return the ‘No’ forms before the deadline. Not impossible with an organized campaign, but challenging.
Keep in mind there are two separate AAPs in play — one for the arts centre, the other for the proposed ice complex up near Kenna Cartwright Park and some seed money for looking into other projects.
While the forms are now available, the countdown doesn’t start until Aug. 6. Staff gave council three choices for a deadline — Sept. 6, Sept. 13 and Sept 30. Council picked the middle ground. The Sept. 13 deadline means there’s a 37-day window to return the forms. Most of that window, of course, will be during the busy summer when people seldom turn their minds to such things, especially a pair of somewhat complicated forms including a bunch of caveats, fine print and background information.
“I am OPPOSED to the City of Kamloops proceeding with adopting Kamloops Centre for the Arts Loan Authorization Bylaw No. 57-1, 2024, authorizing borrowing $140,000,000 to be repaid over a period not exceeding thirty (30) years, to finance the Kamloops Centre for the Arts, described on Page 2 of this form, unless a referendum vote is held.”
- Statement of opposition on AAP form.
One of the reasons that’s being promoted for using an AAP is that it’s cheaper than spending $200,000 on a referendum. So were previous councils wrong to put the PAC to a referendum in 2015 and to plan another one in 2020 before COVID killed it?
The current PAC proposal would cost an estimated $154 million, of which up to $140 million would come from local taxpayers. This is the kind of project people should clearly say yes or no to. They should have the opportunity to make a decision at the ballot box, not through a process that could succeed through apathy.
As the council I was part of was planning to ask taxpayers in 2003 if they were willing to invest in facilities to make Kamloops worthy of its Tournament Capital brand, we had the same two options: AAP (counter petition) or referendum.
We decided to bypass the counter petition and go straight to referendum because we wanted there to be no doubt about what people wanted. An AAP always leaves doubt.
That same kind of thinking should be applied to the PAC in 2024.
Last night, at the Celebration of the Arts event, I said Kamloops has to ask itself a fundamental question: will Kamloops be a better city with the PAC? In my view, the answer is an absolute yes.
I also said the plan isn’t perfect and that neither is the process. But no plan is ever going to be perfect. Ask 10 people what’s wrong with this one, and you just might get 10 different answers.
I’ve been a believer in the need for a new performing arts centre for many years, both during my time as a daily newspaper editor and as mayor. In 2003 we put it into the City’s cultural strategic plan as the Number One priority. Sadly, the arts community was afraid of it then but 21 years later it’s still the Number One cultural priority, and now the arts community is ready.
We’re Canada’s Tournament Capital. It’s time Kamloops becomes an arts and culture capital as well. The PAC is an amenity that can be enjoyed by all, including athletes, recreationists and regular folks. It’s taken too long.
Opposing the PAC because you disagree with the AAP would be like cutting off your nose to spite your face. We’ve got to focus on the project itself and decide based on its merits, not on the process. It comes down to saying yes by not saying no.
So it’s unfortunate that the wrong assent process has been chosen but let’s not let it get in the way. Believe in the PAC. Support it. Build it.
Mel Rothenburger is a former regular contributor to CFJC-TV and CBC radio, publishes the ArmchairMayor.ca opinion website, and is a recipient of the Jack Webster Foundation Lifetime Achievement Award, and a Webster Foundation Commentator of the Year finalist. He has served as mayor of Kamloops, school board chair and TNRD director, and is a retired daily newspaper editor. He can be reached at mrothenburger@armchairmayor.ca.
Sorry, no smoking gun.
There are two forms involved, one for residents and one for non-residents.
A resident must:
A non-resident must:
Note, for non-residents where the property has more than one owner, only one owner can sign the elector response form.
This is somewhat different than last time around when the AAP was successful in hating the parkade in-the-park issue.
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There are four forms involved. Two for residents and two for non-resident property owners. These two counter-petitions are for the PAC and for the multi rink facility, which represent two different votes.
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Wilma = Awsome?
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As I understand it, the cost is around $3600 per taxpayer over the course of the loan, provided that costs don’t exceed the estimates and another loan isn’t required.
Of course they couldn’t just come out and say that plainly. And who exactly is the user car salesman?
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The Reid haters make me laugh when they refer to him as a used-car salesman, as though his occupation disqualifies him from contributing to city governance. What if he was a farmer, a locksmith, a trust-fund scion or a manager on contract? Would that make them feel better? lol
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Thanks for your view, Wilma.
I printed the forms that have been made available from the City of Kamloops for the AAP. In the “Notes” section, the number of electors in the City of Kamloops is estimated to be 87,131. (The required 10% of people needing to sign the AAP form(s) is therefore 8,713.)
My next lookup was the census figure for Kamloops’ population in 2021. The census figure given is 97,902
My next lookup was a “google search” for Kamloops’ population in 2024. The figure given was 108,551.
Anyone with Grade 5 mathematics could subtract 87,131 from 108,551 and come up with a figure in the neighbourhood of just under 21,500
Wilma, people such as Bronwen and others: do you believe there are only 21,500 people in Kamloops who are NOT “electors”? Should we have this sales offer go to the sales manager for a bit higher arithmetic, speaking of used car salesmen??
Dale Bass, your wisdom is needed here.
What is the actual deal on the table??????
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The municipality of Kamloops had 76,327 registered voters at the time of the 2022 elections. I doubt that number has risen by almost 11,000 in the past 22 months. CivicInfo – 2022 Voter Turnout Municipalities
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I do think Kamloops needs a performing arts centre and new rinks. However, I don’t think the process is fair or reasonable.
I think Build Kamloops should have engaged the community more in planning–for instance, why aren’t other sites being considered? It seems the footprint of the 4th and Seymour property is governing the venue size, instead of Build Kamloops developing plans for a suitable venue and then seeking a fitting location for it.
I feel that holding an AAP in summer is manipulative and I don’t like the specious way the City has pitched the tax increases, making it seem like only a $25/year increase when it’s really a $125/year increase.
And why, after spending $millions on a PAC plan, has the City not created and made public even rudimentary plans for a rink facility?
If the City really wants resident buy-in for these projects, then more resident engagement should be fostered. Why the big hurry? Yes, building costs are increasing, but would another six months really make so much difference? When so much money is at stake, we have to get this right the first time.
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I am not against a PAC I am against how City Hall has been going about it including lack of building’s details and importantly its finances. Will the building be an energy hog or will it be built well? Will the buiding maintenance costs pretty much gurantee ongoing tax increases? But I am even more concerned about the rest of the big chunk of money. I would much prefer money be spent in safe cycling connectivity between all the various city’s neighborhoods. Cycling is a great sport (even in the colder months) and a great form of personal transportation.
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The city has much higher priorities, paramount of which is that we are now the crime capital of Canada. This result is by way of folly, gross mismanagement, and the bewildering encouraged proliferation of drug addict services without a shred of accountability, that pulls crime into this city like a magnet.
This is a dubious achievement, not necessarily for simply being the worst crime-ridden city in the entire country, but for the fact that this achievement cannot be realized without prolonged dedication and/or wilfully ignorance on the part of those charged to lead this community. This #1 spot takes real work and effort. Leave it to Kamloops to do it.
To come to the electorate, cap in hand, for a 30 year debt pact, in the most disingenuous sanctioned method possible, with misleading language on the cost burden, with Mike O’Reilly arguing this method saves costs when he voted for a $100K temporary stage, is quite ludicrous.
The arguments are nonsense as well. An art centre will not attract doctors to this town. See my first point if you have any doubts.
Saddle yourself with debt because we didn’t have the good sense to get this built when costs were reasonable. Costs will balloon far beyond the estimates. If this goes through, we will be held accountable. Ironically enough, this may be the only accountability that has touched this leadership group for quite some time.
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Drinking filthy water as well as cooking and bathing in it for two or three months a year was the norm but the order was given by the health authority for our City to have a water filtration system. Comparing public health with the matter of wanting a PAC doesn’t seem to hold water; clean or filthy.
As noted on the videos that I watched, I didn’t see any “street people” around the festive centre. However, within 24 hours, a demonstration was made at City Hall by Glenn Hilke concerning the plight of our fellow members of the community.
There was no sign of Reid on the podium. But, I hear the price for a few moments of fame is about 30 pieces of silver.
All in all, perhaps the whole evening was a great success.
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I still eyeroll when people comment something to the effect of:
“We voted no for it once in 2015 … what dont they understand about no?”
This comment sidesteps the actual reality that residents have never been asked by referendum … and will never be asked … if they ‘want a PAC’. Thats not how it works.
In 2015 people were asked to accept a very specific financial loan proposal for a PAC, and the people said no to that. At that moment that single proposal died. There was never the promise that another proposal would not be put out there in the future.
You will never be asked by a municipal financial proposal referendum if you want a thing … you will only ever be asked if you want to pay for a thing, exactly in such and such a way, as laid out.
If you say no … someone else can try again another time. This process can happen a lot of times … though not likely in our political world … it fundamentally could. You NEVER will be able to vote to say you don’t want the thing ever … that’s not an option.
There IS NO ‘we said no once … so we said no forever’.
That is the fodder of the ignorant who know nothing about how the real world works.
I’m not so happy about the AAP either.
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