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MILOBAR – Don’t be fooled by PR’s claims about sunshine and roses

By PETER MILOBAR
MLA, Kamloops-North Thompson

THE PRO-PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION (PR) campaigners in this province will have you believe that changing B.C.’s electoral system from first-past-the-post to a form of PR will result in nothing less than sunshine and roses in B.C. politics.

Peter Milobar.

Gone will be the ‘divisive’ nature of Legislative debate. Instead, we’ll see a harmonious exchange of good ideas and a willingness on the part of government to pass all of these good ideas, no matter which party brought them forward.

At the heart of the pro-PR sales pitch is the idea that if a party gets 40 per cent of the vote, it will get 40 per cent of the power. It’s a great little tagline, but here’s the reality: there’s no guarantee under PR that if your party gets 40 per cent of the vote, you get to introduce 40 per cent of the legislation in the House.

That promise does not appear in any of the literature I’ve seen on this issue — which isn’t much, for the record, because we know British Columbians are being denied dozens of details on how PR might actually work.

But here’s another reality check: we don’t need to change our electoral system to see more contributions from other parties in the Chamber. There are currently 21 private members’ bills from both the BC Liberals and BC Greens that are not being brought forward for debate.

The current government could call these bills for debate, and work with us to pass them for the benefit of British Columbians. These bills represent about 50 per cent of the seats in the Legislature and 60 per cent of the vote in the last election.

Some examples of bills that will never see the light of day due to the NDP government refusing to allow for debate include the Safe Care Act, which would give parents of young teens the legal right to step in and force them to undergo treatment, and the High Dose Influenza Vaccine Act which would ensure every senior in our province has access to the high-dose influenza vaccine at no cost.

That type of move on the part of the NDP government wouldn’t require a change to the rules of the House, or to our democratic process. It wouldn’t require the rushed and confusing referendum process we’re experiencing right now. All it would take is a little bit of leadership.

The government could make good on all of its talk about fairness and doing things differently, and through its actions, actually change how the Chamber operates.

But that’s not what the NDP is doing. We continue to wait for those private members’ bills to be debated, but with the Legislative session set to end on Nov. 27, I’m guessing it’s not going to happen.

No, instead of working together with all parties in the House, the NDP and Greens are ramming through a fundamental change to our democracy with little debate and few details, to keep themselves in power as long as they can. And a number of the facts that they and the pro-PR campaign are sharing sound good, but are quite misleading.

The idea that whoever holds 40 per cent of the votes holds 40 per cent of the power is impossible, because under PR the reality is that whoever holds the balance of power is in control— i.e. those with five or 10 per cent of the vote, propping up the coalition.

Make no mistake, that’s what’s happening with this PR referendum. The Green Party, comprised of just three representatives, is being rewarded for propping up this precarious NDP government at any cost. Never mind that the Greens are opposed to LNG and the Site C project— they have failed to bring down the government over these issues and have chosen to walk in lockstep with them instead.

So, in return, the NDP are skewing the referendum process as much as they can to give their Green partners the gift of PR, which will guarantee the Greens many more seats in future elections.

To make matters worse, now the premier is trying to change information after many people have voted. If PR passes, John Horgan now says that when the all-party committee of the Legislature meets to decide the details after the referendum, he will instruct his NDP MLAs on the committee to oppose a closed-list system. What else will he instruct the committee to do, that he hasn’t disclosed yet?

Since we know the Greens don’t like the closed-list approach, and the NDP-Greens have a majority on the committee, that means that type of system is off the table. He is effectively taking one of the options off the ballot, right in the middle of the referendum.

If that’s not political interference, I don’t know what is. Horgan’s comments show that it will be him, and not an all-party committee, that will decide how things will work after the vote.

It’s not fair, it’s not right, and it’s certainly not sunshine and roses. So don’t be fooled, folks. Demand better from your government and from the three Green MLAs holding them up.

Peter Milobar is the MLA for Kamloops-North Thompson.

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10 Comments on MILOBAR – Don’t be fooled by PR’s claims about sunshine and roses

  1. Peter Milobar expresses frustration in his difficulty in getting legislation onto the legislative agenda. And it must be frustrating given that previous Liberal governments have had easy and ample access to setting the agenda of both legislative assemblies and enforcing cabinet agendas and actions. He continues to note that “there’s no guarantee under PR that if your party gets 40 per cent of the vote, you get to introduce 40 per cent of the legislation in the House.” This seems to me to be true, at least under the old system of false majorities. A greater level of dialogue and collaboration will be necessary which will mean new ways of working together. Some are terrified of this prospect and this may include Mr. Milobar; I don’t know. Others are crying for a government which can and will test ideas, notions, projects and ways of ordering our public life in BC. Is this “pie in the sky?” Not according to Helen Clark, the thirty-seventh Prime Minister of New Zealand who originally opposed pro rep but came to embrace and thrive within it. And she is no fool. Can you image better dialogue around say, the fast ferries of blessed memory or the Site C dam? Think of the resources, money, energy, talent and vision which once tested could have been directed elsewhere. For a new sustainable and just economy to emerge, the way policy is developed and tested must change and soon. Just today look at the Alberta oil patch; a thirteen-dollar price for a barrel of oil means change is not only coming; it has arrived at least to Western Canada. To simply change the persons in government is no longer enough. We must change the way government operates. Thank you.

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  2. This letter is complete crap. But one point that hasn’t been commented on stands out for me. I think the Green vote was 17% and would likely be higher if people could vote the way that they really want to. They only got 3 seats, but should have had many more. The people who voted for the Greens deserve to represented – especially in Kamloops North where the Green candidate was so strong and would’ve made an excellent addition to the legislature. It’s time to try PR.

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  3. Unknown's avatar Ian M MacKenzie // November 16, 2018 at 1:29 PM // Reply

    ” – – -here’s the reality: there’s no guarantee under PR that if your party gets 40 per cent of the vote, you get to introduce 40 per cent of the legislation in the House.” No, Mr. Milobar, you don’t. But what you do get is 40% of the seats, which allows you to influence the resulting legislation 40% more than the totally silent majority is able to do now under FPTP. That is all that Pr-rep can do, just even the playing field so that proportion of votes equals proportion of seats. Equal rules for all parties; equal value for every vote cast. At the last election the value of a vote for a Lib or NDP seat was 5X more than the value of a vote for the Greens. AND YOU CALL THAT DEMOCRACY? That is nothing but gobbledegook!

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  4. The statement “But here’s another reality check: we don’t need to change our electoral system to see more contributions from other parties in the Chamber. There are currently 21 private members’ bills from both the BC Liberals and BC Greens that are not being brought forward for debate” leads to the second sentence contradicting the first. In fact, what Mr. Milobar is saying seems to support the need for electoral reform. Are we to expect, especially after 16 years of Liberal rule, that the party in power should just play nice with the other parties? Politics and govt have been polarized for years and that’s why we need a new system of governing shares power among two or more parties.

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    • Yep. Peter wants the party in power to play nice with them now, even though the Liberals wouldn’t have been caught dead doing it when they were in power.

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  5. Unknown's avatar tinfoilknight // November 16, 2018 at 11:19 AM // Reply

    Mr Milobar your letter is incoherent. As part of the No side you bitterly attacked the idea of closed lists and now that you’ve won that point you’re angry that the idea is off the table. You claim the Green Party is in control and then point out that they have been unable to stop either Site C or LNG. You seem to be aware that the current FPTP system is unfair but you’re ok with that because it’s unfair in your favor. You seem to feel that the minority should rule over the majority because the minority, your minority, knows best. Democratic will be dammed. Lastly whether or not the government will be all sunshine and roses, well, that will be determined by the quality of the people we elect.

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  6. I will vote how I see fit.

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  7. I don’t see how this will keep the NDP in power, as you say. seems to me that’s about how folks vote, not about how you perceive it. And if it keeps anyone in power, it will be because they were voted in. Whether or not we change it, we still vote and the one who wins gets in, unlike your party did last time….

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  8. Once again we hear from a Liberal that is scared he won’t be reelected under a different system. Peter basically has nothing to add to the argument except more bafflegab.He is a do nothing MLA that is relegated to the back benches. To the Liberals, he is just there to parrot the party line, nothing else.

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