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FORSETH – Milobar, Stone, please tell government to end delays on Ajax

WITH ALL the troubles and strife people in the Cache Creek/ Ashcroft area … and all the way through, and just past, Williams Lake are going through … it’s hard to get worked up — annoyed — or just plain miffed at matters that are political in nature.

I mean, really it is.  WITH ONE EXCEPTION.  The recent letter written by Kamloops City Councillor Denis Walsh.  To be fair (to me that is), I did wait five days while I let things simmer to see if what I had thought upon first reading his letter, had changed it all.

It did not.

The letter Denis Walsh wrote to Christy Clark, Andrew Weaver, and soon to be Premier John Horgan had all of the hallmarks of the rabid opposition that has been stirred up for several years now.

It was all filled with all of the buzz words, of doom and gloom, that one would expect … and even more.  Those included:

…policies on the Ajax mine approval process shock the conscience of the public

…controversial, unacceptable, obsolete and unfair

…not be allowed to proceed in a discriminatory way

…formal disapproval

…virtually powerless regarding the approval process and regulation

…the project could pose serious risks to Kamloops residents’ life and health

…completely unacceptable

…direct threat to the lives and security of the persons living below

…catastrophic failure

…an arbitrary abdication of your foremost responsibility

…opponents have begun queries to legal counsel

There are apparently numerous groups opposed to the mine — all of whom are loud and vocal in their opposition to the mine.  The rest of us … those who are busy trying to work, raise a family, provide advanced education for our children, and help launch them into their own career that will have them doing more than a minimum wage coffee barista, or retail clerk … just want the mine to go ahead, with the safeguards needed to adequately protect the community.

The problem with Denis, and the rest of to LOUD and VOCAL opponents, is that NOTHING will ever satisfy them — except for the AJAX Mine to never be built.

Of course they will always say, sure we’re okay with mining in general, just not here.  And of course by extension that means or there … or anywhere … period.

Mr. Walsh states in his letter:

I wish to hereby formally request that you suspend the permitting process for this mine until the province has undertaken a judicial review of British Columbia’s unacceptable, obsolete and unfair mining practices and regulations, followed by updating and reforms that are found to be necessary.

Well Mr. Walsh, this is what I hereby request:
That our Kamloops MLA’s, Todd Stone and Peter Milobar, by all means possible, extort this government to end the never ending delaying process of review after review.  I also hereby request the approval of the mine so those $100,000 plus yearly salaries, the miners will earn, can start creating additional well-paying spin-off off jobs for the people of Kamloops, and the generation who will next be looking for a well-paying job.

I am, and will be, forwarding this piece to Kamloops area MLA’s Peter Milobar and Todd Stone, as well as acting Mayor Arjun Singh, so they are aware of MY REQUEST.  It is just as valid as the one (which I believe to be the minority opinion) expressed by Kamloops Coun. Denis Walsh.

Hopefully if you agree, you will do the same thing.

Meantime … and big thank you to all of the individuals who are working long hard hours ensuring the safety of residents in the interior of BC … firefighters … doctors and nurses … police offices … councilors … volunteers … and everyone else.  No thanks can every been enough.

And now, as always, the floor is now yours for comment.

In Kamloops, I’m Alan Forseth.

Alan Forseth is a Kamloops resident and former member of the Reform Party of Canada, the B.C. Reform Party and the B.C. Conservative Party. His blog is My Thoughts on Politics and More.

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13 Comments on FORSETH – Milobar, Stone, please tell government to end delays on Ajax

  1. Alan Forseth has now essentially gone on record as saying he’s more interested in monetary gain for himself and family than the overall well-being of the community. Describes the potential *jobs* in the mine as ‘careers’. Why would a labour job in the mine be called a ‘career’, but a job as a barista is simply that… a ‘job’…? Is the difference in his mind somehow tied to the wage earned? The implication seems rather insulting and demeaning to all those people who work as baristas and retail clerks. Spoiler alert – there’s no guarantee baristas in the local Starbucks will get jobs in the mine.

    Here’s the rub, that doesn’t seem to get any mention… automation will eliminate many of the ‘careers’ he infers will somehow be reserved for Kamloops people Haul trucks are already automated in many places in the world… they drive 24/7, don’t take coffee breaks and don’t go on strike. ‘Careers’ will be eliminated as technology allows more to be done without human hands. The promises of employment numbers should definitely not be accepted at face value.

    • Brock … I actually DID WORK, in a mine, for almost 5 years and so I do know a bit about what I speak of.

      YES I started as a labourer, however I worked my way into eventually operating equipment including dump-trucks, forklifts, back hoe, front-end loader, hydraulic crane, and more. I also learned a trade — painting which while not ever in use outside of the mine, has allowed me to do professional quality painting in my own homes. Yes homeS, which I was able to afford due to the start I had with a career that gave me a good paycheck.

      People willing to learn — to work hard — and make a few sacrifices (like not going out partying till late and wanting weekends off to go float down the river (YES I know it’s a HUGE generalization) can earn a good living — AND have a safe job.

      I know this — because I actually was part of it.

      • A good paycheck which comes to you from the labour movement which, under any other circumstances you would viscerally trash…could not resist this one my conservative mouth piece friend!
        Mel, please let this one go through.

      • Alan Forseth // July 17, 2017 at 3:17 PM //

        Why do you say I would trash the labour movement my friend? I have been a member of 3 unions, a shop steward in one, and a bsrgsuning rep in another.

        I dont trash unions as I know the value / security they provide members. That said, just like ANY organization, there have been bad apples.

        Can you please direct me to any comments I have made in the past, because honestly, I’m not aware of them

        Thank you

      • Al:
        You are a “conservative” a right-winger…the labour movement that brought you fairness in the labour market is loathed by the conservatives…except you.
        But let us not dwell on our philosophical leanings…let’s be honest towards our community and its future, say no to KAM.
        My prole demand it!

      • Alan, I’m really trying, but I just can’t see how your comment relates to mine. You worked in a mine for 5 years. OK. But how is that relevant to anything I said? I still find your original post to be a passive-aggressive insult to anyone working hard in a low-paying job. And I still believe that KGHM would embrace any automation technology that would reduce their costs and maximize their profit. Why wouldn’t they? Because they want to become a charity that supports the community? LOL…surely your right wing views would have a huge problem with that!

        Bottom line: I don’t accept that your desire to get a few people out from behind the counter at Starbucks and behind the wheel of a haul truck should supercede the community’s right to a safe and healthy place to call home.

        You want the mine… I get that. But as far as I’ve seen, you’ve never addressed the concerns of the people with letters after their names… the people who have the expertise the rest of us don’t. You’re essentially saying that the facts and studies we might not understand simply shouldn’t receive greater consideration than the feeling in your gut that says “I want it, I know better than the rest of you and I don’t really care about all that other stuff people are babbling about”. That’s really what it comes down to, isn’t it??

  2. Thank you, you echo so many of my thoughts.

    • tony brumell // July 17, 2017 at 2:28 PM // Reply

      So was I Allen and I also know the potentials for all sorts of daming impacts.You may still be healthy because you only worked in miming for 5 years.Many who worked in various types of mines for their career are not healthy.and have an inner knowledge of mine impacts that you can only dream of.You do not have the right to make this decision for them

  3. This is only a quiet observation:
    It is only July 17th and how many people have been evacuated because of wildfires?
    The air quality in most of the southern Interior of the Province is horrid. From the Rivers Trail along the North Thompson River, the south shore of Kamloops could be seen through the haze at 5:30 this morning. For how long will this continue?
    If the Ajax mine was now in production, could we imagine that the mine would shut down operations for the duration of the wildfire season and chronic levels of air pollution from the smoke?
    As I walk our dog along the river, I observe that each day the level of the water drops. That huge reservoir of fresh water that we call Kamloops Lake is an integral part of the ecosystem of the Thompson River. How would that life support system be affected if thousands of gallons (sorry, old school sounds better) of water per day was taken from that lake in order to try and achieve “90%” dust reaction on haul roads?

    Quietly yours,
    An Ajax opponent

  4. Clearly you believe you live far enough away in the east end of Kamloops near Barnhartvale that you and your family will be protected from the risks. Typical conservative thinker, I’m fine, what is good for me and my friends is all that matters.

  5. Talking about “buzz words and platitudes”…are yours anymore in need to be let “simmer” before responding to…Allan?
    Because I am too, busy with all the things you are busy with but I also make time in my daily, busy routine, to keep an eye (and an ear) out for matters of socio-economic interest, especially at the local level.
    Are the fires raging in our region and the resulting hardship totally unrelated to poor choices made in the past by various governments more interested in appeasing “extortion by special interests” over reasoned, value-oriented governance?
    Can’t control Mother Nature however we owe it to ourselves and our future to tame the “economic beast” for a more wholesome approach.
    The allure of an easy $ 100,000-plus a year is an example of “extortion by special interests”. A tailing pond the (eventually) size of dozens of football fields above our city is not an example of “reasoned governance”.

  6. Exactly! Thank you for taking the time to articulate the feelings of the MAJORITY!

  7. Alan, for once … and I really think it is once … I agree with you.
    Here’s the rub; There’s so much interest in the upcoming Council vote on Ajax (as short handed as they are), and yet in the end, they have no say in the decision, as to whether or not the project starts.
    Yet so many voters (apparently) have looped their future municipal Council election choices simply on this one decision. Which means Council members are forced to politicize their personal decision, a decision that means nothing … just to try to keep their job.
    I’m going back to reading about Provincial and Federal politics … at least there the decisions have an impact.

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