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Seniors, rise up against disrespectful beer garden ID rules

LETTER — I was one of the 500 who attended the Hijacked Music in the Park yesterday (Saturday). I was there on July 1 too, as one of the nine finalists for Kamloops Got Talent.

The article that appeared here (Armchair Mayor column, 67 And Still Asked For ID At Beer Garden, July 5) about a senior not being admitted to the Beer Garden caught my attention and it was the subject of much discussion at the seniors community that I volunteer at. They agreed that there appears to be no respect.

Music in the Park - Hijacked was great, but reader says  seniors' respect has been hijacked, too,  by beer garden ID rules.

Music in the Park – Hijacked was great, but reader says
seniors’ respect has been hijacked, too,
by beer garden ID rules.

I’m going to go one further – it has always been considered rude to ask a lady her age. When did that change? While a young woman might not want to be considered a lady, virtually every woman in the affected category would appreciate being considered one now. That being said, “respect your elders” is more all-inclusive and no less true. These are rules we all grew up with.

I thought perhaps the Powers That Control may have amended their ways after the noted article appeared so I tested the rules. I went through the gate and was stopped, was asked “do you have picture ID?”

I said “yes” and made no move to get it. He then asked to see it and I refused. He explained it was required and I told him “no,” turned around and went home. It is unfortunate that it was not his company that lost money. Not that I would have spent much; I just wanted a cold beer!

There are enough of YOU out there that we could make it matter. Seniors deserve respect and maybe we need to remind those youngsters with clout that it’s rude to disregard the years we’ve endured. I’d like to see seniors come out to beer gardens everywhere, refuse to show ID, get turned away and contact the papers, or the Armchair Mayor!

We deserve respect and if you can’t decide between 18 and 40, you shouldn’t qualify for the job of Security!

SHANNON McARTHUR

Kamloops

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4 Comments on Seniors, rise up against disrespectful beer garden ID rules

  1. Unknown's avatar Lawrence Beaton // July 14, 2014 at 5:32 AM // Reply

    If it is causing a problem to have members of the community id themselves to prove age, maybe the beer garden should be eliminated. Though I recognize the fact that the beer garden brings in a lot of money for the organization holding the license.

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  2. having said that, it was great to see between 3000-4000 people attend the event between 5 and 9:30. It was a great turn out and were glad to provide this to Kamloops Free of charge.

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  3. I can not agree with you more. As one of the co-hosts, we were very disappointed that common sense could not be used. I do not blame the security company as they were “educated” by the liquor inspector that every person “needs” to be i.d’d. Now, within the community over the last few weeks, it is my understanding that we have had a varying degree of security at each beer garden within the community. Canada Day and its turning seniors away was a sad example of Black (as was this event), and another “garden” on the North Shore did not ask anyone for i.d. – White. I am considering writing a letter that sparks a conversation over a consistent place for review that indicates a standardization of security management of these events – especially in light of the new regulations that are meant to actually tear down the barriers rather than make them tighter as they seem to have been in the last few weeks by a certain security company. Also, I would like to discuss the “over-regulated” culture we have created for ourselves as not only Canadians but North Americans. It is out of control and leaves us now more restricted than ever. I do not suggest that we should not have laws and by-laws, but that common sense be used and be a valid argument in our courts (which I hope it is to some degree, as I am not a lawyer). If an elderly person was found not to have ID within a beer garden, it would not cause a great legal issue, nor be shut down, nor would it stand up in court – a judge would laugh it out as a waste of his or her time. If a minor was caught without ID within a beer garden then yes, it would be proper to close it down and penalty’s applied. Common sense is respectful of the law…. law enforcement is very mindful of this and plays by this every day. Give people the respect to do the right thing and if they prove to be deliberately doing the opposite, then enforcement can be applied. Things should not be as black and white as the fear of liability is now dictating our way of life. It is sad if this does not change.
    Alan Corbishley, Executive Director of BC Living Arts and co-host of HIJACKED.

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  4. Unknown's avatar Lawrence Beaton // July 13, 2014 at 5:40 PM // Reply

    Maybe staid old Kamloops, needs a GRAY POWER ORGANIZATION.

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