EDITORIAL – City Hall must do better in providing public access to its meetings

Standing-room only crowds used to be allowed in City council chambers, as in this meeting several years ago.
An editorial by Mel Rothenburger.
AN INTERESTING EXCHANGE has been going on between Kamloops Citizens United and City Hall this past week. KCU complained that a number of residents were denied access to a public hearing on a controversial proposal to develop a mixed industrial-commercial-residential neighbourhood next to the Kamloops Regional Correctional Centre.
The KCU’s argument was that the City should have foreseen public interest in the proposal and held the hearing in a venue larger than council chambers, or at least provided an overflow room in City Hall, both options having been employed in the past.
Coun. Kelly Hall, the deputy mayor du jour, more or less brushed off the KCU’s concern and replied that the chambers need renovation.
Corporate officer Maria Mazzotta provided a more detailed response, explaining that safety regulations are the issue. (Back in the day, standing-room crowds were allowed into chambers, but no more.) She also mentioned that council is investigating the possibility of obtaining a bigger facility for its meetings.
Interesting comment, since a golden opportunity to do just that and split the costs among the City, TNRD and Kamloops school board was missed a few years ago. It was 2020, and the three local governmental bodies were all struggling with what to do with their public meetings in the midst of COVID.
The TNRD had moved its meetings from its own building into the Delta Hotel and then the Valley First Lounge in Sandman Centre in order to gain enough space to accommodate social distancing. The City and school district were in a similar conundrum.
That raised the idea of all three establishing a central venue they could share. Why, after all, have three different places? They all meet on different days and at varying times, so scheduling wouldn’t have been a problem. But it made too much sense, and was soon forgotten.
So, the City is now trying to figure out what to do with chambers that have been too small almost since the day they were built, and to find a replacement, or to renovate. But that’s an answer for the future; the problem exists now.
Which brings us back to the solution of either moving large-crowd meetings to larger venues, or providing an overflow room. The latter isn’t a very good answer. Neither is the excuse that the meetings are live streamed (streaming is good, but not a full solution).
It has not been uncommon for meetings of broad interest to be taken outside City Hall to places like hotel ballrooms, the big lounge in the hockey arena, or even to the Grand Hall at Thompson Rivers University.
That can still be done. The City has to do better in assuring public access to its meetings.
Mel Rothenburger is a former regular contributor to CFJC-TV and CBC radio, publishes the ArmchairMayor.ca opinion website, and is a recipient of the Jack Webster Foundation Lifetime Achievement Award, and a Webster Foundation Commentator of the Year finalist. He has served as mayor of Kamloops, school board chair and TNRD director, and is a retired daily newspaper editor. He can be reached at mrothenburger@armchairmayor.ca.
If it is a matter of safety, Mel, one might ask what the threat could be.
Hanna, the little old lady wearing a purple sweater and carrying a walking stick, was threatened by a CSO to have the RCMP respond to council chambers. Hanna, loosely translated as “my inspiration and girl of my dreams”, put the fear of God into Council and administration who were in council chambers that day. Our elected Mayor, Reid Hamer-Jackson, used his people skills to address Hanna and thank her for her words.
For me, Mel, it’s all about the loss of democracy through bullying. They tried to bully Hanna but she stood her ground, walking stick and all. She inspired me and may her message never die.
Hanna and people like her are the threat, Mel.
A move to a larger facility for meetings is a welcome move. A move away from bullying is even better.
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Hello John, great comment!
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walk 4 blocks down Victoria Street and hold meetings in the old Paramount Theatre, plenty of seating, a stage, proper acoustics and a sound system already in-place
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With regards to Councillor Hall;
1-KCU wrote a letter asking several questions
2-Hall responds with vagueness and avoidance
3-KCU follows up asking for clarification to specific questions
4-Hall replies that he’s sorry that KCU feels their questions weren’t answered but in life we don’t always get what we want. He makes no attempt to articulate an answer to their inquiry but he makes sure to include a condescending “Hope your weekend is well.”
How did this arrogant little man get elected?
With regards to Ms Mazzotta;
1-may I suggest the Paramount Theatre as an alternate council chamber for large scale public meetings, the theatre is operated by a non-profit society and is not in use on Tuesdays, they have a stage and ample seating, I’d suspect renting would be rather meagre compared to the $500million Build Back Better initiatives
2- it seems rather coincidental that you are now restricting entry into chambers, I noticed cramming people into the chamber was not an issue when the Fawcett’s were presenting their plans for the PAC
3-since when has the city paid attention to the Ombudsperson, I find this very surprising considering the city’s complete disregard to other provincial body’s rules and regulations such as the Ministry of Municipal Affairs “principles of transparency, neutrality, engagement and stewardship of the public trust” in regards to the AAP petition such as not having one during the summer months, making a fair determination of the total number of eligible electors (2,261 nonresident electors seems like a lot considering Nanaimo only had 80) or going to Assent voting (referendum) immediately for large scale, expensive and contentious issues
4-so am I understanding you correctly in that the city will be following the Ombudspersons past and future rulings and that the city will take immediate corrective actions if the Ombudsperson determines the city has broken the rules?
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Great points, great comment!
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