LETTERS – A citizen’s question: who will pay for Coun. Neustaeter’s legal bills?

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EDITOR: An interesting exchange between resident Kathrine Wunderlich and City Hall regarding the payment of legal expenses for Coun. Katie Neustaeter.
Re: Public Funding for Councillor Katie Neustaeter’s Legal Expenses – Civil Claim Filed 31 July 2025
Dear Mayor and Council,
I am writing to formally inquire whether the City of Kamloops plans to fund the legal defence of Councillor Katie Neustaeter in relation to the civil defamation claim brought against her by Mayor Reid Hamer-Jackson on 31 July 2025.
As you are aware, under British Columbia law, elected officials are personally liable for defamatory statements they make, even if these statements are made in the course of their duties. Defamation is a personal tort, and unless the comments were made explicitly as part of official city business and under legal obligation or privilege, public funds should not be used to cover legal costs. The courts have consistently ruled that defamatory conduct, even by elected officials, does not automatically qualify for public indemnification.
Based on publicly available information, Councillor Neustaeter’s remarks seem to have been made independently and outside any formal council proceedings or authorised city communications. Therefore, I urge the City Council to consider the precedent this could set: using taxpayers’ money to defend personal actions, including potentially defamatory behaviour, might weaken public trust and lead to future liability for actions that the City neither directed nor approved.
I respectfully request a clear and public statement from the Council regarding:
- Whether the City has committed or intends to commit any funds toward Councillor Neustaeter’s legal defence in this matter; and
- If so, under which policy or authority was that decision made?
Kamloops taxpayers deserve transparency and accountability when it comes to the use of public funds, particularly in matters of personal legal liability by elected officials.
Thank you for your attention to this critical matter. I look forward to hearing back from you.
Sincerely,
KATHRINE WUNDERLICH
Coun. Neustaeter’s response:
Kathrine
“Reid, you initiated the lawsuit. So you independently chose the path you now claim no responsibility for.
“Ms Wunderlich, is it accurate that the mayor’s new lawyer (also the lawyer involved with the unsuccessful AAP lawsuit) is a family member of yours? It is helpful if motivation and transparency are practised in good faith by all participants in inquiries such as these. I’m happy to be disavowed of that impression if it’s isn’t accurate. I’m sure that would also be good information for the Kamloops taxpayers you claim to be acting in the interest of.”
KATIE NEUSTAETER,
Kamloops City Councillor
Kathrine Wunderlich’s response to Coun. Neustaeter:
Dear Councillor Neustaeter,
Thank you for your recent reply to my question about whether the City of Kamloops plans to fund your legal expenses concerning the civil defamation claim filed against you by Mayor Reid Hamer-Jackson on July 31, 2025.
I note that rather than addressing the substance of my letter – specifically, whether the City is indemnifying you – you redirected the conversation to a question about my relationship with the mayor’s legal counsel. I will not dignify that deflection, as it has no bearing on the core issue at hand: the potential use of public funds to cover what appears to be a personal legal matter.
As a resident and taxpayer of Kamloops, I am asking a reasonable and legitimate question about the use of municipal resources. It deserves a clear and direct answer:
- Are you receiving, or do you intend to seek, financial support or indemnification from the City of Kamloops for your legal defence?
- If so, under what legal authority or City policy is that support being provided?
Kamloops taxpayers are entitled to transparency and accountability, particularly when it comes to the funding of legal actions stemming from allegations of personal misconduct.
I look forward to hearing back from you.
Sincerely,
KATHRINE WUNDERLICH
Coun. Bill Sarai (deputy mayor for August) responds officially:
Hi Katherine (sic),
As the deputy mayor for the month of August, on behalf of council, we thank you for your continued interest of how legal funds are spent on behalf of our taxpayers.
As the mayor has initiated another lawsuit, and this matter is now registered before the courts, it is in the best interest of fairness to both parties, that we do not interfere in the legal process.
We can assure you that the information you requested will be made available at the appropriate time.
That is the law under the Provincial government that sets and oversees municipal policies for local governments.
This is the same government who approved our AAP process, and whose framework for local government that we will continue to follow and request guidance when required.
Hope that information is satisfactory and that any further questions on this matter will be addressed after the case is decided.
Regards,
BILL
this council is the living manifestation of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Even worse actually. They reinforce each other’s DK effect and amplify it. If a group of boneheads proclaim their collection genius to each other, then they really are geniuses. “This is a bold council” indeed.
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News for Coun. Neustaeter, a private citizen cannot be in a conflict of interest on this matter. A private taxpayer is not acting under the same requirements that an elected official is (code of conduct and conflict rules). Why does she not understand this basic presumption?
This is a pedestrian straw man argument used to avoid the initial query.
Very childish pull from the grab-bag of low intellect debate tactics.
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Since Ms. Neustaeter has solicited a disavowal, she may consider herself heartily disavowed.
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Someone recently suggested that the watchdogs (my word) who are currently protecting us from City Hall like the writer and the responders should run for Council next time. Please deliver us from more mayhem. And, Ms Bolton, yes if you hire a lawyer who is a famlly member that creates a massive problem. You are one of the first to cry conflict of interest when it suits you., I am as tired of these whiners as I am City Hall.
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You are incorrect. A person can hire a relative (as long as they’re a lawyer) to represent them in BC Supreme Court.
I ordinarily don’t respond to ethical fallacies like name-calling, but would like to point out that (1) A conflict of interest petition is never entered into lightly, and (2) Sometimes a lawsuit is lost due to technicalities.
But the mayor’s lawyer is not related to the mayor. It’s not even known if the lawyer is related to Ms. Wunderlich. Coun. Neustaeter’s weird flex has no bearing on the subject at hand, which is who is paying her legal fees.
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What massive problem is that? Be specific.
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This raises a few questions for me:
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You have posed good questions . The attempt at a deflection by the councillor failed. It’s along the same lines of having anything to do with her playing keyboard at a church on Sunday morning. Perhaps one person for a few hours one day and a different person other days.
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To Kathrine Wunderlich,
Are you qualified to provide your opinion on the state of the law as it is to be applied regarding defamation, liability and indemnification matters in the context of municipal elected officials? In other words, are you a practising lawyer in BC?
The questions you ask certainly deserve answers, but perhaps it is not appropriate to summarize the state of the law without first referencing your legal qualifications or referring to a legal opinion that you have obtained.
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I’m no lawyer either, but the Local Government Act seems quite clear:
Local Government Act Division 2 — Immunity for individual local public officers 738 (1) a member of a council (3) cannot be indemnified if (3)(b) the cause of action is libel or slander.
Are you a lawyer? If so, please give your professional opinion or provide some case law that shows that Ms. Wunderlich’s interpretation is incorrect.
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Renee, I’ve read several of your responses in the past and a common theme is that often you don’t fully grasp the content in which you are responding to. It’s as though you read half the comment and decide to criticize it without reading the last half. For example, the question posed was;
”If I hire a lawyer who is a family member, does that change how a law is interpreted.” The operative part here is, CHANGE HOW THE LAW IS INTERPRETED, nobody was asking if hiring a family member was a problem or not. You’re answering a question which hasn’t been asked, so I’ll ask, how does hiring a family member change how a law is interpreted?
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The opinions of the state of the law is a tertiary item, the focus point of the letter clearly stems from the two questions posed:
1)Are you receiving, or do you intend to seek, financial support or indemnification from the City of Kamloops for your legal defence?
2)If so, under what legal authority or City policy is that support being provided?
Both of these 2 questions were clearly avoided by both councillors and now you Rob Madsen have become their enabler by further seeking avoidance of the issue.
This makes you a hypocrite;
“The questions you ask certainly deserve answers, but perhaps it is not appropriate to summarize the state of the law without first referencing your legal qualifications or referring to a legal opinion that you have obtained.”
If the questions posed “deserve answers” then why are you questioning the relevance or appropriateness of the authors legal qualifications, they’re irrelevant. The questions don’t become more relevant with the greater legal training of the questioner.
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So, you have read my comments before? Considering how rarely I comment and how little I say it is hard to imagine how you are able to discern from that my lack of ability to fully grasp content. I know exactly what the questions posed were, and I also know what the writer and responders are looking for it to do. If I told you that I thought they were petty and misguided would you be happy with that? And, completely off topic you have called one person a hypocrite and then there is my lack of ability to understand. Are these considered ethical fallacies
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Renee, I’m not questioning your lack of ability to understand but rather your lack of patience to fully read the text before jumping to conclusions.
You made a comment, I challenged you to explain your comment because it didn’t make sense, this is your opportunity to clarify your comment.
This isn’t Facebook, the standards and expectations are higher, ppl get called out for their comments. Yes I did call someone earlier a hypocrite, I also accused them of being an enabler. If you think I was out of line then explain how so, but first show the patience to fully read the entirety of the comment.
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Good thing a citizen must be a lawyer in order to understand the law and accordingly need not follow it unless (s)he’s a a lawyer…oh wait
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How awful was that response from the “tactician” Neustaeter? More than ever I believe we need way way less politicians like her around. But let’s not forget the puppet-master pulling the strings behind the curtain, in charge of the medieval borough, lord McCorkell.
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