EDITORIAL – Motion to adjourn special council meeting was out of order

(Image: Mel Rothenburger)
An editorial by Mel Rothenburger.
ONE OF THE THINGS that cheesed off some of the public gallery this week after listening to Coun. Bill Sarai’s apology was the abrupt manner in which the meeting was adjourned.
As Mayor Reid Hamer-Jackson attempted to follow up with a couple of questions for Sarai and Coun. Dale Bass, Coun. Margot Middleton suddenly interjected, “Move we adjourn!”
When Hamer-Jackson tried to keep going, she said it again. Her fellow councillors quickly agreed, so the meeting closed with no opportunity for discussion.
That adjournment was illegal under Robert’s Rules of Order, which governs how Kamloops City council meetings are run. Robert’s does allow members of a board or council to call for adjournment. It’s not the strict prerogative of the meeting chair.
However, there are limits. Such a motion must be seconded and approved by a majority. That prevents members from calling for adjournment on a whim if they don’t like the direction the discussion is taking, or if they’re feeling a bit peckish and feel the need to go out for pizza.
So far, so good for Middleton. But there’s an additional protection that prevents abuse of adjournment. Nobody can move adjournment if another member has the floor and is speaking. It can’t be used simply to cut somebody off if you don’t like what the person is saying.
Hamer-Jackson clearly had the floor and was in the process of speaking when Middleton made her motion. Nobody pointed that out. Not the mayor, who simply wasn’t aware of the rule, not anyone else on council, and not corporate officer Maria Mazzotta, the council’s parliamentarian.
There are, in fact, quite a list of motions that can’t be made when somebody else is already speaking. But this council has never been particularly astute when it comes to rules of order, such as when they insist on making “points of order” that aren’t actually points of order.
Middleton was being consistent with council’s record of discouraging debate when it doesn’t suit. Right at the beginning of the meeting, councillors refused to even considered Hamer-Jackson’s attempt to open it up to public inquiries. But her motion to adjourn was out of order.
It’s just the kind of thing that frustrates taxpayers who have something to say, or something they want to hear, but find themselves being shut down.
Mel Rothenburger is a former regular contributor to CFJC-TV and CBC radio, publishes the ArmchairMayor.ca opinion website, and is a recipient of the Jack Webster Foundation Lifetime Achievement Award, and a Webster Foundation Commentator of the Year finalist. He has served as mayor of Kamloops, school board chair and TNRD director, and is a retired daily newspaper editor. He can be reached at mrothenburger@armchairmayor.ca.
LOL, no it wasn’t. Reid had no business trying to hijack what was already nonsense into more nonsense. Y’all better get a grip, this is pathetic, y’all pathetic! Where’d all the normal people go anyway?
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Yes it was, as in “not following the proper rules of a meeting.” Kamloops City council uses Robert’s Rules of Order to govern the conduct of its meetings. Coun. Middleton’s call for adjournment, and council’s vote on that motion, did not follow proper rules and, therefore, should have been disallowed.
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Thanks Mel.
Do gangs ever abide by rules?
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next time they should just walk out. that was the whole city fleet of dumptrucks worth of ridiculous. Bold Leadership indeed.
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All the “normal” people are in Vancouver at the “hopefully it is the end of the end of the eras tour…they are all there.
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I am so sick and disgusted of the bullying conducted by our city council. They are like a bunch of teenager with no manners, picking on the mayor, belittling him. They all need to be FIRED. They have done nothing but create more taxes and abuse their positions. I am embarrassed by them.
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I think HMS City Hall’s crew and officers mutinied a long time ago–they’re just getting bolder now. No consequences, which seems to be the norm these days.
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Oh what disrespect they have for that man.
What disrespect they have for the ones who put them into a chair at the horse shoe. It wasn’t that long ago that Margot had signs with her smiling visage on them; hoping to woo people into believing that she would do well for the citizens of Kamloops. Now, just half way through her term in office, has she acted like a canine that has bitten the hand that fed her?
What to do, what to do, what to do with one plus seven who feel they are now untouchable?
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Were actual rules been broken I didn’t know for sure but the abruptness was obviously in very bad taste, quite rude actually. But let’s stop just looking at council for a second here. At this point I can categorically state that the paid folks who sit regularly right across from council are fundamentally not nice people even if they dress well and their shoes are polished. Nothing will fundamentally change until Kamloops will elect either a few outliers or some extremely smart people. The outliers and the smart people will not put up with those managers for long.
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